Tuesday, December 19, 2006

Finding Our Way in Transition

My buddy Brant has kicked off an interesting discussion on his blog related to our little faith community. Some very good (and common) questions have been raised so far in the comments. I keep thinking I might jump in to give my perspective, but Brant’s answers have been...well…pretty much what I would say anyway.

A few of the people who commented raised what I think might increasingly be a critical issue to those of us who have stopped “going to church” as Brant describes. What happens when you move to a new area or are simply desiring to find a group of people who seek to live in this way? The typical process has been to attend various Sunday meetings to get a “feel” for the church. That would work if you were simply trying to find a meeting that suited your tastes for worship and preaching, but is woefully inadequate to discover if settling into that community is the right thing or even possible. However, the alternative – doing nothing and slowly allowing yourself to get sucked into churchless oblivion – is not very attractive either.

My advice to people in this situation has been pretty simple. Whether you are moving to a new area, or making a transition in the same place, it seems that trying to intentionally seek out people or groups who are moving this direction can be counterproductive. Invariably, we resort to old thought patterns – do they worship in the way I like, do they read the version of the Bible I have, do they have similar political views? Instead of looking for something to relate to, I think we should be looking for evidence of God’s kingdom and following him there. Practically, this means intentionally keeping new relationships agenda-less. It’s tempting to rule out people because of their commitment to a church you don’t jive with or you don’t become instantaneous friends. Just be looking for that spark, a hint of God saying “I want you to sow into this relationship right now.” Invite them to lunch and share a little about your struggles with fitting in a church. Give them a favorite book or just talk about the various people that have influenced your thinking. As you spend time them, the soil is prepared to plant something more robust that might eventually throw down some roots.

I’ve known Brant and Carolyn for about three years now. We’ve walked alongside of them as they’ve wrestled with church and tried to reconcile their longings for something more with the tyranny of all that appears to be. We prayed that they would find what they were looking for, and are delighted to be involved in the community that is the next step in their process. But it is important to realize that no one could have had the forethought to direct Brant and Carolyn where they were three years ago into this little community today. In the final analysis, it is only the Spirit of God who does these things, makes these connections. And that, my friends, is an incredibly enormous burden off my mind.

16 Comments:

Blogger Shawn said...

very well put, I totally agree.

12:21 PM  
Blogger John said...

So you're *sure* then, that there aren't any google keyword searches..? Because that would be really helpful.

; ]

I kid. Thank you for taking this topic up. You're right, no doubt. I'll keep praying and plugging.

12:44 PM  
Blogger Amber said...

John - keep digging. Actually Brant found Mike though his blog and well the rest is part of our story. I will say though lots of people have emailed to connect and some have (like the Bourques and the Hansons) and lots have not. Just keep looking for "that spark".

1:55 PM  
Anonymous steven hamilton said...

sorry up front for what may be a long, rambling post that doesn't make much sense:
i recently had a conversation with a friend of mine. He calls himself a 'former-catholic', which seemed a bit humorous to me at that moment, but he was speaking of growing up in the Roman Catholic tradition, of which he no longer associates, but has become 'evangelical'. anyway, he was saying that one of the things he missed about being catholic, was that no matter where he was he could find the local catholic church and thus it was easy to 'join the local family gathering even if i was a distant cousin', so to speak. this made his life in a transient culture easier, especially since he travelled for business a lot. he described (and this really echoed in the discussion going on over at brant's blog) that it was easy to plug into a community he knew was going in the same direction, even if it was slightly parallel to his home community. it made me think and share about my own family, and how the Hamiltons from kentucky were different from the Hamiltons in indiana...rural versus urban, republican as opposed to democrat. we cooked differently, ate differently, and yet we were all still Hamiltons, because we identified ourselves as Hamiltons (some by marriage, some by blood). all to say, right now, i'm terribly conflicted about the conversation. it's probably me, but i think perhaps i can only describe it in the way that gandalf describes the shire and hobbiton in the lord of the rings: a charming, warm, community isolated from the larger world [thanks be to iiluvatar for that]. what i read and hear about the great things that are happening with you guys make me think charming, warm community...all things i long and seek to be a part of. its the isolated piece i feel that confounds me. not necessarily isolated in an electronic sense...probably well connected in that sense, and not certainly not isolated from friendship - for i am familiar enough with the story of your community to know you guys have lots of friends outside the shape of the present community. maybe its my own angst of being where i am. i also know you guys felt isolated even within a larger familial movement (vineyard) which often describes itself as a 'tribe', so i don't think that is it either. mike, amber, do you think your community is isolated? do you feel isolated in any sense? i don't know why i feel that way about it.

2:26 PM  
Blogger Mike said...

Steven,

Thanks for posting that, because it brings up what I think is a critical point that gets overlooked in regards to small communities like ours. To answer your question, no we don't feel isolated at all. In fact, I feel more connected to people, both within and outside of the church, locally and globally, than I have my whole life (with maybe the exception being college). The central element to this feeling is that we just simply have more time to "be" than we ever did in other church settings. I am not rushing from church function to church function as was my habit before. Now, maybe that was just my problem at the time, but from the data I've gathered, busyness in church settings is an epidemic and busyness tends to create isolation.

Not to say I'm not active now. We have a very full, "normal" American family schedule. But within that context I feel quite available (relatively) to other people. And that seems to be the case among others in our community as well. We certainly enjoy being with each other, but we really have only two "official" times together each week, and one of those is an informal meal that frequently has friends of friends in attendence.

However, your points are well taken and every smallish community (and every large one for that matter) needs to understand that we don't exist purely for ourselves.

8:55 PM  
Anonymous steven hamilton said...

hey mike -

i love that...time to just be. my friend actually talked about this book he had read while he was with the navigators in boston a while ago, it's a book from the 1970's from a bob girard called brethren hang together, which i guess talks about being a community that lets people be rather than rushing from event to event. we're seeking to move away from an event-driven agenda up here too...it makes me sigh wistfully. bless you guys!

peace

6:02 AM  
Anonymous steven hamilton said...

ok, one more comment i thought of this morning on the way into work. i talked about this with a friend of mine who is actually a demographer for the census bureau here in DC. what about geography? i'd like to know how geography affects the community there in jupiter. i realize it's less difficult for singles or even married without children, but speaking for myself and my growing family (we are 5 weeks away from Hamilton spawn #3...what ever will we do now that they will out number us?), its much more difficult with kids. how do you guys find it with your kids and geography there in florida?

6:11 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'll speak to that: Geography is HUGE.

It so happens, almost all of us are able to live in Jupiter, or very nearby. This makes a very big difference.

There are a few who don't live so close, and we appreciate very much their willingness to drive. But it's been super-cool for most of us to be so close, and a big, big help.

Brant

11:23 AM  
Blogger Amber said...

Steve - I'll speak to the kids thing. Most of us all have 2 and 3kids. They range form 2 to a newly 16 year old. They all work it out. Once a month I do something for the kids 11 and under while everyone else has all group. Other than that, they are absorbing our community life and they fit in quiet nicely. Why don't you and the fam just take a little vacay down to south FLordia and check it our for yourself. Soooo much is lost in blog translation.

12:19 PM  
Anonymous steven hamilton said...

amber - i like that...what would we say?: 'lost in blogation'? i wonder if the old kids like hanging with the adults in a smallish community like yours? i was reminded of my pastor john odean, who was an asst. pastor at kenn gulliksen's west la vineyard back when vineyard was just 5 home groups (before wimber). stuff was happening and lots of people were joining in, and someone had the idea: hey let's do something for the teenagers...so they tried to, but the teenagers basically said, no way, we like hanging with the adults and what's happening there...i think that was likely because they were multi-generational so there wasn't a big disconnect.

peace

12:37 PM  
Blogger Amber said...

I don't know Steve about the older kids. I'll ask them tonight at common meal and then let you know. About being out numbered with three, well, it stings at first but I promise in time you will grow to love the chaos of it.

1:18 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Three kids. A mere trifle.

John Wesley

12:56 AM  
Blogger Amber said...

John - I know you didn't have any of your own children but your mom Susanna was amazing. What with 17 kids and her husband being in jail all of the time for not paying his bills and getting through that horrible house fire. My hat is off to your Mom because she obviously helped in your formation. She must of done something right for you and Charles to go and start an entire movement. My prayer even before motherhood was that I would have half as much impact on our children as your mother had on you. So when you think about, pray for me and my three.

10:28 AM  
Anonymous Carolyn Hansen said...

Is it too late? Has this thread run out? Mike, I am nodding at what you wrote about just watching out for evidence of God's kingdom and following him there. Sowing into relationships that he directs us into. I have a very sweet friend now, 9 years my elder, who is very involved in a very pentacostal church. I could have dismissed her right away because our worship sensibilities are so different. But when we first got together, we both talked excitedly about God's kingdom and what he is doing in us each in weird Florida. Now I feel like our coffee afternoons are church - I leave all filled up, taught and mentored. I'm glad I didn't run out on her.

About the kid thing: it's very important to me and Brant to have fellowship for both our kids (10 and 13)wherever we do church. When we found out that your fellowship group had acquired some teens and preteens, THAT'S when we were all over it! (They hang out enough with their parents as it is, with homeschooling.) As much as Brant and I had wanted to join you sooner, it wasn't time yet.

I love our group!

7:42 AM  
Blogger Bill Bean said...

It is definitely a legit topic. Learning to trust the Spirit, learning to be patient (again - thinking of a garden) is fundamental and most difficult. Two immediately practical things come to my mind. This is a good reason why folks should think hard and long before they move away from a community. This is countercultural for sure. Existing communities still need to work to establish new communities whenver it is possible to do so.

9:53 AM  
Anonymous steven hamilton said...

bill -

wow, your words rang through me like a bell. i think you are spot-on. i really like the gardening analogy. i think also, a good word on discerning 'seasons' might be good for those currently in existing communities. it's difficult to weather a pruning season from the Lord. but it is for a greater harvest (and i'm not talking church-growth...unless i would mean big C Church) and kingdom breakthrough. we need the discernment of the Spirit, so we can follow after what the Father is doing. I love to see the variety in which He moves...I love seeing and hearing what's going on, just like with the Jupiter community here with the Bishops. we need to trust the Spirit, i pray that we can all be as faithful...

ps - mike, i really agreed with your post on brant's discussion about if all the questions being posed to your community in that discussion were posed to others, there might be some fairly ugly answers. too true of all of us...

peace

6:22 AM  

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